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how's it going folks greg carl wood here

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your humble host of the higher side

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chats podcast a marijuana fueled rom

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through the worlds of conspiracy the

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paranormal and the all-around fringe

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where i focus on trying to provide the

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best interviews with the most

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interesting guests

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on a whole host of strange and

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suppressed topics and to celebrate our

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100th episode we had 13 of my favorite

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guests pop in for short 10 to 15 minute

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segments

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and some of them were so interesting

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that i wanted to pull them out of that

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massive three-hour show

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and let them be appreciated on their own

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in a way that's easier to find and share

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and all that good stuff

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so pack your glass and park your ass

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people and get your mind right for the

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journey ahead because these my friends

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i know you've been a busy guy you put

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out a lot of work since we last spoke i

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was hoping for this little spot you

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could tell us about the book you just

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put out last september the infinite

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minefield the quest to find the gateway

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to higher consciousness which i believe

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largely about the pineal gland and the

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pineal gland symbolism throughout

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history and ancient cultures is that

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yeah in in in general terms it's my

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attempt

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to to pull together a lot of the

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disparate threads that i've been writing

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about over recent years

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and what i'm doing is i'm looking into

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the neurological

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and pharmaceutical aspects and

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neuropharmacological aspects of

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consciousness and how it interfaces with

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reality

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and i was particularly interested in the

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way in which the symbolism of the pineal

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gland

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goes back through most cultures right

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across the world

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and also the way in which it links

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directly into the esoteric traditions

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in those cultures as well and indeed i

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was surprised to find that a lot of the

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symbolism and ideas go right back to

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ancient suma

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and indeed can be linked directly with

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such oddities as out of the body

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experiences and such like

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yeah man that's pretty awesome i've been

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pretty intrigued by the topic for a

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while because i've been told that the

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pineal is often represented by a pine

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cone which is interesting because

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there's representations of pine cones at

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the vatican

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and masonic lodges and a ton of ancient

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cultures and and also people talk about

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that symbol

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holding some hidden knowledge behind it

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which the whole thing seems pretty

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widespread like you said back to ancient

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the sumerians oh absolutely um

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for instance i took the opportunity a

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few years ago to go over to angkor wat

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in cambodia

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and again if you look at the camber the

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main temple of angkor wat

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and you look at the shape of the the the

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main towers they clearly are

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huge pineal glands or at least pine

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cones now of course on top of that if

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you wander around the particular anchor

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watts

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site the greater site there is another

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temple called the biome and in the biome

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there are there are

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scores of of carved heads um carved into

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the side of one of the temples and all

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of them had the third eye

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symbol in the center of their forehead

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so clearly we have

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something here that's intriguing and

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virtually universal

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now where i've taken it is slightly

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different to a lot of other people in

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the sense that i've linked the pineal

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gland

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directly to neurology in the sense that

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i'm particularly intrigued in the

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evidence

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that the pineal gland internally that is

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endogenously generates

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the substance known as

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dimethyltryptamine which which of course

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as you guys will be very aware

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is one of the most powerful

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hallucinogenic drugs known to man

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and indeed is the major constituent of

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ayahuasca

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now one of the things that stunned me

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was to discover that in fact the brain

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itself brews its own ayahuasca

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in in that we now have definite evidence

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and i know a lot of people out there

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will say there is absolutely no evidence

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that the brain actually excretes

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dimethyltryptamine

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well there's been work done by a lady

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called gmo borrigen

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who is a researcher at an american

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university which i think is the

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university of minneapolis

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and she's now discovered and get this is

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this is virtually breaking news in many

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that they have discovered

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dimethyltryptamine in the pineal gland

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live rats now the reason that they use

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rats is because of the similarity in

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terms of the neurological structures of

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the rat's brain to the human being's

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so here we have something stunning

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because over the years you know they

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have discovered

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uh dimethyltryptamine in the blood they

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discovered in spinal fluid

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they discovered in the lining of the

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stomach various other places but they've

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never discovered it actively in the

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brain

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now not only that but this is definite

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proof that the pineal gland

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generates it but on top of that what is

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even more intriguing is the pineal gland

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generates something called homolyne and

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is what's known as a mono oxidized

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inhibitor in the sense it's an mao

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inhibitor and effectively what this does

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is just like one of the constituents of

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which also contains an mao inhibitor is

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it effectively facilitates

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the way in which dmt can be diffused

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so this is intriguing stuff and it

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clearly

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now shows that dimethyltryptamine is in

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a neurotransmitter and indeed the human

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brain is designed

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to have this because there's things

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called the trace amine associated

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receptors in the brain these are

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receptor sites in the neurons

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and these are designed specifically like

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a key is to a lock

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to actually work directly with the

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dimethyltryptamine

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so as rick strassmann once said you know

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that there's evidence to say that

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dimethyltryptamine is the modulator by

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which we modulate

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the brain modulates reality there seems

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to be powerful evidence now that this is

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the case

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yeah man that is awesome and super

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fascinating because i've

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been hearing about this for a while and

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it was speculation for a long time but

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it seems like now we've got some hard

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data

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and i keep hearing that at the heart of

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a lot of secret societies a big part of

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the hidden knowledge they preside over

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involves the pineal gland and its

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importance and it seems like

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conventional science might be catching

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up to that which is pretty awesome

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totally and that's why i'm so excited

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about the book because what i do is i

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bring the two together

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in the sense that i review the neural

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neurology of everything but i

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on top of that deal in great detail with

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the secret societies

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for instance um some of the symbolism

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this caduceus for instance

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and the twin snakes because there's a

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link here directly

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also with the kundalini experience there

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is also

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a very very powerful link to

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the way in which the brain actually

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functions now

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you will see the sign of the caduceus

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everywhere you know the idea of the two

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twin snakes actually coming together one

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going up a central pole

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and then at the top there's a kind of a

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the two heads of the snakes come

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together when there's a circle

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and that's the pineal gland now if you

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start seeing this symbolism that way you

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exactly how powerful this is and

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i suspect that this has been known for

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centuries you know you look into masonic

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in fact there's there's two or three

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buildings in new york i've discovered

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that actually has

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pineal gland symbolism on the side of

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the buildings which were designed by

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um one of the world's leading masonic uh

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architects yeah so clearly that there is

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a link here with with

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masons in fact in masonic symbolism

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there's something called the hercules

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pillars

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which is in fact there is a pub in

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central london that i used to drink and

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call the hercules pillars

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and this is the major pub opposite the

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grand masonic hall in in hoban

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in london and effectively you walk into

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the pub and you can actually see these

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two symbols and it's the ida and the

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pingala

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which effectively again are the twin

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channels by which

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the kundalini force goes up the spine

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through the body

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to enlighten the pineal gland damn man

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it is super interesting because you know

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hours outside of la but there is a

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massive massive mall in la and it has

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this picture that i believe comes from

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the sumerians it's like

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five stories tall on the side of this

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building and

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i think one has a big beard and the

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other one looks like a falcon but he's

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holding a pine cone like he's trying to

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give it to someone and then the other

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hand he's holding like a

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like a bucket and every time i see that

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that is so ironic because marketing and

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consumerism

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and all this small [\h__\h] is it's almost

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directly opposed to enlightenment and

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the things that the pineal might unlock

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and in times with the sumerian symbolism

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i mean this is this is symbolism of

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sumerian legends you actually get into

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people for want of a better term now

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this can be linked directly back

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to dna and in fact a lot of the

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with dimethyltryptamine but using the

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elusive light device

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which i've touched upon last time and of

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course the lucid light device as far as

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and i'm very strongly believer of this

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actually stimulates the pineal gland to

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excrete dimethyltryptamine

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now when i had this effect i had very

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very vivid dreams after i used the

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and i had snakes i was dreaming of

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snakes now this is exactly

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the kind of symbolism that if you go

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the indigenous peoples of the amazon

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basin as the one thing they continually

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talk about

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is the snakes and the way in which the

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snakes are your totem

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creatures and such like so clearly

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there's powerful symbolism and i believe

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it's dna communicating with us

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i think we are tools for dna dna is what

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and it is a way of communicating with

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our own dna

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not only this but i think that there is

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a link here to something called

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biophotons

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and the give because because dna gives

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off light and it gives off photons

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on top of that i'm working very closely

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now with a guy

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called professor irvin laszlo who you

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may have heard of i have heard of him

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haven't had him on the show yet but he's

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a fascinating guy

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oh totally irv but he might be

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interested to know that irving and i

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we are launching the new paradigm

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concept at the university of milan in

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italy

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and we've got uh leading psychologists

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particle physicists all spending a

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weekend

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presenting this new model of what irving

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calls the akashic

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paradigm the idea that the zero point

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field

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we perceive is actually drawn up from

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the information field

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and i'm suggesting that our processor

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that gives us access to this

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information field is the pineal gland

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wow that is super interesting stuff man

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there is

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so much more meat on these bones we're

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gonna have to do a longer show i mean

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the pineal is a fascinating thing all

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the symbolism what it might mean the

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power behind it

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yeah we could go on forever but thanks

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so much for stopping in to do this you

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never fail to get my mind going man

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thank you very much greg it's great to

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talk to you and congratulations on the

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100th show as well

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thank you and do you want to give the

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people some info about your books and

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website before we let you go

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yeah no absolutely the book is called

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the infinite minefield it's available

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in u.s bookshops and bookshops around

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the world as well which is really great

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uh my webshop website is anthonypig.com

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that's anthony with an h

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and peak p e a k e dot com and also join

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me on facebook

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very cool anthony you're the man

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definitely one of my favorite guests

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from the first 100

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and we'll do it again in the next 100 so